tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3834956846132783294.post2517193775392436344..comments2017-01-24T12:18:37.694+01:00Comments on mdradvies, just my opinions: BIM mathAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06481611029926317988noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3834956846132783294.post-26271053766305385472014-04-10T19:37:12.873+02:002014-04-10T19:37:12.873+02:00I do like that Sketchup supports IFC but for a rea...I do like that Sketchup supports IFC but for a real discussion about how useful and well-structured the export data is for fabrication and construction, why not compare Tekla and Sketchup since they are both owned by Trimble? And don't only include architects in the conversation, engage with the engineers of real buildings as well as fabricators, builders and sub contractors with experience using this data on real projects. There is so much more to BIM than form finding and then sharing the data as 2D pdfs with the people who actually engineer and construct buildings.<br /><br />We are working to encourage this kind of collaboration in our not-for-profit Digital Fabrication Network http://dfabnet.org/ And we hacked IFC data and new and creative ways at our AEC Hackathon on Facebook campus again last month. Website here http://aechackathon.com/<br />Videos of the hacks here http://youtu.be/3YcGTrQiggk<br /><br />IDEAbuilderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05243086432842556703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3834956846132783294.post-63886300832208891252014-03-18T09:14:07.230+01:002014-03-18T09:14:07.230+01:00Interesting ideas. I totally applaud that SketchUp...Interesting ideas. I totally applaud that SketchUp wants to play nice in a BIM workflow, yet retain its strengths. The IFC models from SketchUp are already more usable e.g. By loading them in Solibri. Would be interesting if initiatives like OpenStudio will start to utilize this approach. Right now, many SkeychUp enhancements occur in isolation and the classification options might help with that. stefkeBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11101340033056377955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3834956846132783294.post-78403216173652949482014-03-11T06:54:37.644+01:002014-03-11T06:54:37.644+01:00Martijn, a hierarchy is not flexible and complete ...Martijn, a hierarchy is not flexible and complete enough to represent a building. Building components have richer and more interdependent relationships than that. This is why clashes occur - they are the collision of elements that are only aware of their own hierarchy. A graph is probably a more realistic representation of the relationships between elements. Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11075862420424673439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3834956846132783294.post-16037185946797122802014-03-09T17:21:54.935+01:002014-03-09T17:21:54.935+01:00For completeness, here's my blog post on the s...For completeness, here's my blog post on the subject: http://goo.gl/98LCaZAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17422857854408891603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3834956846132783294.post-73281954925358506212014-03-09T16:42:34.505+01:002014-03-09T16:42:34.505+01:00SketchUp does include a notion of hierarchy throug...SketchUp does include a notion of hierarchy through a system of groups (simple hierarchical nesting) and components (groups with multiple linked instances of a common definition) and so I would argue that it is A bit more capable yet than you describe. But no matter- I think you're really getting close to the roots of a much more universal system of information modeling that we're accustomed to talking about in the popular BIM discourse.<br /><br />People tend to describe SketchUp in terms of it's "lacks" (as in "SketchUp lacks a parametric wall tool.") though we have for years resisted adding such features. Our goal is to develop a simple tool through which designers can express ideas of great complexity. The pencil is my greatest inspiration.<br /><br />Which kind of makes me wonder... couldn't you implement a BIM system (using your definitions) using only pencil and paper? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17422857854408891603noreply@blogger.com